No Pro Reason 1: Poker Is Not About the Money
Thursday, 17 May 2007 11:32![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)

I had built a list of reasons that I'm winding down playing of poker. I mostly wrote them out for myself, and had planed to make proper entries and post them here. As you might guess, because my decision was more or less made that I'd wind down my poker efforts, I have been slow to roll out the posts that explore the reasons.
I've been listing the reasons in no particular order; the first I posted was regarding game selection concerns. The second is a bit more nuanced, and I'll begin explaining it by telling a brief story.
A long time ago, I was introduced to someone whom I'd been told was an
avid poker player. I asked her what she liked about poker and her
quick answer was: I love poker because I love money
. I was
taken aback. I then made my usual mistake when I'm well informed on
a subject: rather than keeping my judgements appropriately to
myself, I blurted out an analysis: You'll never be a good poker
player if you love money that much
.
Of course, this is a counter-intuitive assessment, but nonetheless
correct. I first encountered this idea when reading Doyle Brunson,
who has said in many fora: to be a successful poker player, you
must have a complete disregard for money
(or sometimes saying
the value of money
). Eventually I came to the realization
that this was a big factor in my (albeit small-time) poker success
as well.
The fact is, I never much cared about money. I have been extremely poor at times (well, “extremely” when consider in relation to my social class, upbringing, and education level — I make no assertions that at my poorest I'm always have it better than most people in the world; we don't actually live in a classless society). At times when I was “poor”, I (like anyone else would) noticed the lack of money to do basic things like rent an apartment without cockroaches, or to have enough money to afford real pasta sauce rather than buying tomato paste and adding water.
But once I had enough money that I could rent a relatively nice apartment, eat out when I wanted to, and own a nice computer (or, have my employers provide them, actually), there wasn't much left that I ever needed. I just never wanted things. I really always hated possessions. I'm known for hording junk because I hate throwing things away, but I found I was just as happy avoiding acquiring things.
When I started playing poker, it was mainly as a competitive effort with the side-effect of getting free pizza money while in college. When I started playing seriously in the early 2000's, it was as an escape of my “regular community” that I had temporarily become fed up with. But, it was never really about the money.
Money to me always seemed like a meaningless thing. In the late 1990s, while my friends ran off to cash in on the Dot.Com boom, I went back to graduate school to hide from what I saw as over-commercialization of the Internet that I loved. Now, I'm staunchly middle class, I've been lucky to get jobs that don't compromise my principles, and it probably will stay this way for the rest of my life. There's nothing I want in my life that a little more money can buy. I can imagine it would be nice to win so-called “life-changing money”, so that I wouldn't have to ask people to pay me to work on the social causes that I care about. (I'm one of these rare people who would do roughly the same job I do now even if I didn't need the money.) However, making money that doesn't instantly make me independently wealthy simply won't improve my life. I just don't have much interest in being a Ferengi.
I feel that I got into trouble when I started to think about poker as something I needed to do to make expenses. I did increase my expense footprint, and it will require some careful financial management to live without the $1,000/month I was pulling from poker. But I can surely figure out how to reduce my expenses enough to make things work.
But, that's somewhat beside the point. The point is that I didn't get into poker for the money. I did, however, get caught up in the poker boom (ironically, after I'd already explicitly avoided the Dot.Com boom). I'd started to like the fact that easy money was coming my way; I was becoming a little bit a Ferengi. But, that's not something I really wanted; I pretended I wanted it, in a way, to justify not giving up, and after a while I even believed that I wanted it. In other words, I convinced myself I wanted “easy money” to keep from throwing myself into something I valued more. I bought into the myth of EV, which assumes a person's time is only valuable to the extent to which that person produces wealth. I do believe in EV in the mathematical abstract. Yet, the quality of life EV, and the EV of world betterment, are both much more important in the equation than the pure financial EV. This belief is why I refused to take Economics in college; it's why I avoided going to work for a start-up. It's just not worth changing my core principles just to keep playing poker.
In the final analysis, I was using poker as a mechanism to avoid spending as much time in the world I really loved (the one to which my career is devoted), because I was a bit burned out, as many who devote their lives to social causes do. I'm not burned out anymore, and in such a situation, poker serves only as a financial EV calculation. Yet, as I told that avid poker player I once met: one can't possibly be good at poker anyway if it's only about the money. The people who do best at poker love the game — they want to be doing nothing else when they are playing poker. I stopped feeling that months and months ago. It just became about the money. But, no matter what my financial EV is, I can't really justify playing for only that, particularly when I know I'm not going to get financially independent from it.
no subject
Date: 2007-05-22 16:55 (UTC)I still need to play poker for the money. :)
Enjoy the game...
Date: 2008-06-11 16:40 (UTC)I thing that poker is the perfect card game because:
Firstly - it's a perfect blending of simplicity, challenge and luck.
Secondly - you don't even need to risk any real money to enjoy the game (you do, however, if you love money that much)
rockrags.us (http://www.rockrags.us/plus-size-clothing.html)
Just saying hi
Date: 2011-05-09 00:50 (UTC)Just saying hi to this forum.
John
--------------
[url=http://whizsignal.com]Whiz Signal[/url]
Private Download [Do Not Share]
Date: 2011-05-20 17:00 (UTC)I Just Pre Launch my New web Site.
A Collection Of FREE Scripts, Database, PLR, E-books, Headers, Templates And More.
Powerful and easy to use PHP scripts, including clone scripts of popular sites...
I give you a free lifetime access.
Just sing up as "Free Membership" and PM with your username.
I will upgrade you to Lifelong Membership free of charge, and you can start building your business.
http://plrstorage.com/?plr=33
Reviews are much appreciated.
15 slot remaining!
I want to make some contribute to shipitfish.livejournal.com
Date: 2011-05-26 10:20 (UTC)FixVTS can only accept VOB files. After decrypting all I got is back up of IFO files (VTS_01_1). I did re-authoring but it skipped a lot of files. There's gotta be another way..But then I'll try your concept next time.Thanks!
[url=http://www.iphone-video-converter.net/]iphone video converter[/url]
Roman Names
Date: 2011-05-30 01:05 (UTC)[url=http://romannames.net]Roman Names[/url]
Hello there men!
Date: 2011-06-13 22:07 (UTC)Kiss :)
I am not certain whether this is allowed but I am truly interested in
[url=http://www.urheberrecht.justlaw.de/abmahnung.htm]copyright watch abmahnun[/url], then I am living a link in my signature that has many usefull material about that topic.
generic celexa 40mg
Date: 2011-06-28 05:37 (UTC)HELLO & HI to all
Date: 2011-07-10 07:24 (UTC)By the way I have a very good web site about
[url=http://www.bild.de/news/inland/razzia/kino-to-und-die-rache-der-nerds-18298154.bild.html]copyright watch abmahnung[/url] and suggest to evrybody to view it.
was's up
Date: 2011-07-10 07:51 (UTC)By the way I have a superb web-site about
[url=http://www.abendblatt.de/vermischtes/article1917697/Razzia-gegen-Raubkopierer-Webseite-Kino-to-abgeschaltet.html]copyright watch abmahnung[/url] and suggest to evrybody to view it.
scrapebox list
Date: 2011-08-01 23:40 (UTC)http://www.scrapeboxlist.info
Christian Louboutin sale may a suitable French footwear designer brand
Date: 2011-08-14 18:28 (UTC)Equally well even as being perfect and also making us become georous Italian research has shown which will a smart pair of high heel sandals can help tone the body, condition muscles as well as enhance the exact wearer's sex life simply by exercising the type of pelvic muscles! [url=http://suliiaxus.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-43.html]Burberry was a suitable shrewd marketer, employing[/url] is one France pump designer brand whose golf shoes are generally adored just by a substantial number. They own perhaps even been in comparison to works of the art, and thus some of the his situation were chosen inside of one poll brand-new the very footwear a good number potentially to successfully turn women to do with! The exact heels encompass laquered scarlet soles combined with vertiginous high heels also have actually seen for the actual feet along with Gwyneth Paltrow, Nicole Kidman, Catherine Deneuve, Kirsten Dunst, Tina Turner, Angelina Jolie, Posh Spice and therefore Sex and as a result the exact City's Kristin Davis.
Louboutin's athletic shoes definitely get noticed for christ in addition to the he admits in which he crafts his golf shoes which can choose to be one particular 'perfect blend with regards to beauty in addition to the sex appeal' moreover he likes making his outstanding high heel sandals the highest good enough that have all the people 'slow women [url=http://sulia.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-47.html]A real sunglass is no somewhat more one thing towa[/url] as wll as show them a very sexier gait.'Almost all female friend will remind the exact red soles in cases where referring to your perfect moreover luxury women's snow park high heels. And in addition absolutely any female is at a keen desire toward personal an irresistible charming Christian Louboutin back footwear types. However the actual exceptional price is constantly inaccessible intended for nearly all normal women. Discerning types are actually moving their own target because of the Christian Louboutin shoes replica golf shoes.
"It's a single one along with typically the not usual places where Best can undoubtedly extraordinary down. It's much like being inside of an enchanted forestbut equipped with no snakes!" Inside of matter, Louboutin may you might not fan because he's partnered thanks to At least one & Sole to make sure you create a very line with regards to espadrilles, on the way to make sold at their valuable resorts inside of the Maldives, Los Cabos, the type of Bahamas, Dubai, in addition to the Mauritius, moreover at Louboutin's London along with Creative York boutiques. "Espadrilles may just be fabulous footwear designed for dressing up for vacation," he says. The particular festive colors of the these kind flats, wedges, and even platforms are meant to allow them to happen to be shown off under the holiday sun, and yet customers create in support of another totally nice souvenir home, a touch too.
File Sharing and Its Importance in Web Hosting
Date: 2011-09-14 19:22 (UTC)The file sharing internet websites are mostly reliable, simple and quick to work with. They are ideal to utilize for file hosting as any good file can be uploaded and connected to your own website. Regular notifications of almost any new upload or replacements are in general sent to keep a tabs on files. Quite heavy files or large data will be stored without problem. Also one does not need to share private data with all users. Security with the critical files is maintained to some large extent. Situations organize files in folders in order that when required complete folder is usually downloaded in a travel. The files are effortless update and access from phones as well. In fact most organizations offer anytime - any place downloads of files that is definitely an added feature to build it a popular preference to store files. One will never require any IT help support for file uploading. The system is completely user friendly. A controls are always with you which means you are the deciding guru where files sharing is involved.
No cost file sharing sites are usually very important for web hosting as sanctioned secure and simple way to share files in an economical manner. The only drawback could be the limit on disc place used. It will be advisable for budding businesses to try their hand at and if it works for them they can buy space when expected.
File Sharing (http://www.thoughts.com/garrywilson12/free-file-sharing-and-storage-websites)
Smittys Print Shop
Date: 2011-09-18 04:43 (UTC)columbia printer with over 20 years in the business!
nike free 5.0 waffle
Date: 2011-11-10 19:35 (UTC),No matter what advertising medium you're using, you'll have when you need to be sure within the basics; same goes sufficient reason for banner advertising. Banner advertising is definitely no different with regard to the item regard, plus building a fabulous strong foundation is literally essential intended for success. , http://www.freerunaustralia.com/lunar-elite-cheap_23
, Flipping sites sets itself apart far from other types amongst online income opportunities because the program is truly one of a few where someone can build a good six figure business including zero. Must be along with internet business will never lose its popularity.
shoes
Date: 2011-11-19 19:17 (UTC)Jocuri sport/sport games
Date: 2011-12-01 18:57 (UTC)You learn to trust, to feel comfortable in a safe environment.
But first, the game is nice! It's a happy feeling, gives you energy! It makes life feel to the top of your toes!
And ... That's why we play![url=http://www.jocuri-sportive.com ]jocuri sport[/url]Gonna write here until you answer me to tell me that's the reason why I'm banned I do not get on the chat on Thursday night and now it's Saturday. I want one explanation![url=http://www.jocuri-sportive.com ]jocuri sport[/url]
uggs sale
Date: 2011-12-04 05:06 (UTC)Unfortunately, it is becoming much better to buy an off-brand can potentially[url=http://uggsbootsoutletsaleforcheap.com/]uggs boots[/url] with the confusing names that the overseas companies usually are usually marketing. Many companies can also be making Ugg look-alike shoes that incorporate fake materials rather than sheepskin. If you truly desire the Australian Ugg ease, make sure this could be a true Australia solution.For an [url=http://uggsbootsoutletsaleforcheap.com/]uggs boots outlet[/url] authentic a couple of of women's Ugg boots be sure that the boots accompany authentic sheepskin. Other products may resemble them but won't be nearly as sturdy. Fake Ugg merchandise usually sell for the lower price. It is one big indicator for most but not for every person fake Ugg merchandise. Some fake products try to sell their cheaper boots [url=http://uggsbootsoutletsaleforcheap.com/]uggs boots for sale[/url] for a passing fancy price because real Ugg's to mix up the patron.Buyer beware: suede, pigskin and even a few thin clleular layers involving sheepskin produce the phony product look very just like the Australian Ugg merchandise but are far from the durability the crucial Ugg's provide.
no subject
Date: 2013-03-05 12:43 (UTC)