I generally agree with you. However, in my case, while my live $1/$2
NL results have been very excellent (I'd have to check for exact
numbers, but roughly I make $40/hour in them), I am losing player in
live $2/$5 NL games. As you recall when I visited you, for example, I
was down $800 for the trip until the $1/$2 NL game at the casino,
where I won it all back and then some in an eight hour session .
Also, in NYC, the underground games are somewhat tougher than they are
in Dallas (and the people are generally total assholes here, which makes
it more excruciating to play). In Atlantic City, I could probably work my
way to being able to beat the $2/$5 NL games, but I just don't know about
$5/$10. It's hard for me to imagine; I tend to think I'd eek out some
wins but I'd be grinding for an hourly rate that's not that much
more than what I make at $1/$2 NL but with substantially higher
variance.
Remember, you're a better player than me. :) I think it's just a
natural talent thing; some people have more a knack for this than
others. I have a pretty good knack for it, but perhaps just enough to
be merely a moderately winning player. Despite hard effort and study
for many years, I am still only beating tough $1/$2 NL HE games for
$12-14/hour and very soft ones for $40-70/hour.
That said, I iterate that I agree with you on the primary point. Live
poker, probably in the casino environment, is where the best game
selection is going to be moving forward; we're playing out the last
days of Internet poker. People will give up poker as a regular thing
online as it gets difficult, and return their home games. However,
hundreds of thousands of people take occasional trips to casinos for
fun each day. The boom has shown many of them that poker is more fun
than the other casino table games, so they will fill the casino games
for many years to come on their occasional vacations.
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Date: 2007-02-05 20:00 (UTC)I generally agree with you. However, in my case, while my live $1/$2 NL results have been very excellent (I'd have to check for exact numbers, but roughly I make $40/hour in them), I am losing player in live $2/$5 NL games. As you recall when I visited you, for example, I was down $800 for the trip until the $1/$2 NL game at the casino, where I won it all back and then some in an eight hour session .
Also, in NYC, the underground games are somewhat tougher than they are in Dallas (and the people are generally total assholes here, which makes it more excruciating to play). In Atlantic City, I could probably work my way to being able to beat the $2/$5 NL games, but I just don't know about $5/$10. It's hard for me to imagine; I tend to think I'd eek out some wins but I'd be grinding for an hourly rate that's not that much more than what I make at $1/$2 NL but with substantially higher variance.
Remember, you're a better player than me. :) I think it's just a natural talent thing; some people have more a knack for this than others. I have a pretty good knack for it, but perhaps just enough to be merely a moderately winning player. Despite hard effort and study for many years, I am still only beating tough $1/$2 NL HE games for $12-14/hour and very soft ones for $40-70/hour.
That said, I iterate that I agree with you on the primary point. Live poker, probably in the casino environment, is where the best game selection is going to be moving forward; we're playing out the last days of Internet poker. People will give up poker as a regular thing online as it gets difficult, and return their home games. However, hundreds of thousands of people take occasional trips to casinos for fun each day. The boom has shown many of them that poker is more fun than the other casino table games, so they will fill the casino games for many years to come on their occasional vacations.