You said that anything other than Neteller is -EV. That's a pretty harsh statement. Firepay doesn't charge for cashouts, only deposits, and I rarely make deposits since I think I've only went broke online once in the past two years. (A statement to how below my bankroll I may be playing, since less than half my bankroll floats around online most of the time.)
Usually, I just move money from one poker site to the next when I need to deposit again.
As for the SSN issue, I work hard to limit the number of people who can match my SSN to me. Netteller probably can't get your SSN, they can just check a database to see if the SSN you gave them matches. Thus, they don't have it until you give it to them, but once you do, they know it's valid.
I don't mind giving it to US banks as much (although I've been pretty lucky in that regard as well), because at least US federal privacy legislation (weak as it is) protects me. These offshore financial institutions don't have the same protections and I don't have the same redresses if identity theft happens that way.
And, as I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, I'm looking for the payment method that seems least likely to be impacted by the legislation. My limited reading of it indicates that they will have the most difficulty regulating offshore financial institutions that do lots of different types of transactions other than online gambling. An offshore Debit Visa hooked up to your US bank account seems the most credible type of account (i.e., the last to be reached by the legislation and the most likely to survive the full 170 days, or perhaps longer).
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Date: 2006-10-11 20:02 (UTC)You said that . That's a pretty harsh statement. Firepay doesn't charge for cashouts, only deposits, and I rarely make deposits since I think I've only went broke online once in the past two years. (A statement to how below my bankroll I may be playing, since less than half my bankroll floats around online most of the time.)
Usually, I just move money from one poker site to the next when I need to deposit again.
As for the SSN issue, I work hard to limit the number of people who can match my SSN to me. Netteller probably can't get your SSN, they can just check a database to see if the SSN you gave them matches. Thus, they don't have it until you give it to them, but once you do, they know it's valid.
I don't mind giving it to US banks as much (although I've been pretty lucky in that regard as well), because at least US federal privacy legislation (weak as it is) protects me. These offshore financial institutions don't have the same protections and I don't have the same redresses if identity theft happens that way.
And, as I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, I'm looking for the payment method that seems least likely to be impacted by the legislation. My limited reading of it indicates that they will have the most difficulty regulating offshore financial institutions that do lots of different types of transactions other than online gambling. An offshore Debit Visa hooked up to your US bank account seems the most credible type of account (i.e., the last to be reached by the legislation and the most likely to survive the full 170 days, or perhaps longer).