PLO/8 is such a different game from limit O/8. They are at least as different as limit HE and NL HE, if not moreso. PLO/8 is often about intimidating low draws with a high holding and promoting mediocre low draws by bluffing with a mediocre high, that sort of thing. But, I know almost nothing about PLO/8 other than what obvious general poker skills apply.
I used to never fear being quartered in limit O/8, and discovered it was a huge leak in my game. I often simply fold a naked A2 on the flop if there is heavy action or if there are only two opponents. It's not mandatory that you play the nut low draw to the river when it has no other prospects. You may do well to keep a healthy fear of quartering on the low.
Raising preflop in limit O/8, in most games, rarely thins the field, but you are quite right that saying it's pointless is like the player who won't raise with AA preflop in HE because ever calls anyway. The point is to build a huge pot when you are a favorite to win a lot of it. That said, I usually need to be holding A2 with a nut flush draw before I raise in most super-loose limit O/8 games. I don't typically raise with mere AA in O/8, PLO, and PLO/8. It has much better set value when they can't put you on it because you didn't raise preflop. Also, naked AA isn't much of a favorite in an O/8 game. Basically, build a huge pot preflop with raises when you think you are a favorite to flop a two-way hand or made hand/draw combo that you can ride to the river.
Raising to stop people from hitting the flop in O/8 isn't super important like it is in HE. You actually want people to hit the flop with you in O/8, because two pair and non-nut flush draws are so vulnerable. You want people to come along with hands looking to make two pair and non-nut flushes, because a lot of your profit comes when they take those hands too far.
I guess my biggest point, which I'll reiterate, is to that one should think of PLO/8 and limit O/8 as completely different games, because the skills and styles aren't particularly transferable, at least no more than HE skills are transferable to limit O/8.
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Date: 2006-09-19 21:36 (UTC)PLO/8 is such a different game from limit O/8. They are at least as different as limit HE and NL HE, if not moreso. PLO/8 is often about intimidating low draws with a high holding and promoting mediocre low draws by bluffing with a mediocre high, that sort of thing. But, I know almost nothing about PLO/8 other than what obvious general poker skills apply.
I used to never fear being quartered in limit O/8, and discovered it was a huge leak in my game. I often simply fold a naked A2 on the flop if there is heavy action or if there are only two opponents. It's not mandatory that you play the nut low draw to the river when it has no other prospects. You may do well to keep a healthy fear of quartering on the low.
Raising preflop in limit O/8, in most games, rarely thins the field, but you are quite right that saying it's pointless is like the player who won't raise with AA preflop in HE because . The point is to build a huge pot when you are a favorite to win a lot of it. That said, I usually need to be holding A2 with a nut flush draw before I raise in most super-loose limit O/8 games. I don't typically raise with mere AA in O/8, PLO, and PLO/8. It has much better set value when they can't put you on it because you didn't raise preflop. Also, naked AA isn't much of a favorite in an O/8 game. Basically, build a huge pot preflop with raises when you think you are a favorite to flop a two-way hand or made hand/draw combo that you can ride to the river.
Raising to stop people from hitting the flop in O/8 isn't super important like it is in HE. You actually want people to hit the flop with you in O/8, because two pair and non-nut flush draws are so vulnerable. You want people to come along with hands looking to make two pair and non-nut flushes, because a lot of your profit comes when they take those hands too far.
I guess my biggest point, which I'll reiterate, is to that one should think of PLO/8 and limit O/8 as completely different games, because the skills and styles aren't particularly transferable, at least no more than HE skills are transferable to limit O/8.