It should be noted that in another
blog, I have gotten into a discussion about this. I will summarize my
additional comments on this matter below:
As I've said in the post, I don't think there was cheating going on at
the All In Card Club (AICC, or as I called in my journal, the L Club). I
want to be clear that I think the rumors were false. I believe
that maybe there was an ulterior motive by the staff to
manipulate the must-move structure to get fish with big stacks in front of
house players. I would not (and have not) classify it as cheating. I
do think it was a manipulative and inappropriate way to run a club.
AICC was poorly run no matter what way you look at it.
As for why people thought there was cheating going on, I can only
speculate. I really think that poor floor decision-making and
organization can leave a bad taste in people's mouths about such things.
For example, AICC often used decks long after they became beat up and
should have been retired; people wonder why this is and begin to worry.
One guy voicing the rumors claimed to me they were marked decks; I doubt
this is true, but if they changed decks more often, he'd have no basis to
speculate. The goofiness of the poorly implemented must-move structure,
even if it was pure incompetence (and not "fish moving" as I've
suggested), looks like something weird is going on. People wonder why it
is that house players won't give up their seat for other players. (Once I
and a friend showed up at the club and they told us we'd have to wait,
even though two house players were in the game!) These kinds of bad
decisions on part of management breed rumors.
I'm one to always attribute to incompetence rather than malice.
Perhaps I'm going overboard saying that the must-move manipulation was
malice and not sheer incompetence. But, it's no surprise that this false
rumors got started; when you make a lot of mistakes in running a business,
people are wont to speculate widely about why.
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Date: 2006-06-05 17:00 (UTC)It should be noted that in another blog, I have gotten into a discussion about this. I will summarize my additional comments on this matter below:
As I've said in the post, I don't think there was cheating going on at the All In Card Club (AICC, or as I called in my journal, the L Club). I want to be clear that I think the rumors were false. I believe that maybe there was an ulterior motive by the staff to manipulate the must-move structure to get fish with big stacks in front of house players. I would not (and have not) classify it as cheating. I do think it was a manipulative and inappropriate way to run a club. AICC was poorly run no matter what way you look at it.
As for why people thought there was cheating going on, I can only speculate. I really think that poor floor decision-making and organization can leave a bad taste in people's mouths about such things. For example, AICC often used decks long after they became beat up and should have been retired; people wonder why this is and begin to worry. One guy voicing the rumors claimed to me they were marked decks; I doubt this is true, but if they changed decks more often, he'd have no basis to speculate. The goofiness of the poorly implemented must-move structure, even if it was pure incompetence (and not "fish moving" as I've suggested), looks like something weird is going on. People wonder why it is that house players won't give up their seat for other players. (Once I and a friend showed up at the club and they told us we'd have to wait, even though two house players were in the game!) These kinds of bad decisions on part of management breed rumors.
I'm one to always attribute to incompetence rather than malice. Perhaps I'm going overboard saying that the must-move manipulation was malice and not sheer incompetence. But, it's no surprise that this false rumors got started; when you make a lot of mistakes in running a business, people are wont to speculate widely about why.