1: I actually like the club. It's better run than some of the NYC clubs,
I must admit. Mainly, I felt the staff were not likely to sell out their
players, and I often don't have that feeling in NYC.
2: While I didn't put this in the post, I chose not to bet the pot at
that moment because even though I was confident in my read later on, my
read at that moment was, "I think I have the best hand, but if Josh raises
in this spot, he's beating me". Once he failed to raise that $50 bet, I
got really sure about my read. If Josh had raised there, I knew I had an
easy fold. I wanted to be sure I didn't get too deep in the pot on fifth
street. Also, since I had no draw at that point, I wanted the possibility
to fold on sixth street if josh caught an overcard to my queens, paired on
board, or even if he caught a spade.
In some ways, it was that total blank on Josh's board on sixth street
that married me to the hand. While I can't remember my exact thinking, I
know that at least subconsciously, I was sure I didn't want to swell the
pot too much on fifth.
That's one of the challenges I have in the little bit of PL stud that
I've played. It's usually tough, given the typical stack sizes in a $1/$2
blind game, to fail to become somewhat pot committed on sixth street. I
have this gut feeling that I want to make it to sixth street still able to
fold if things get hairy. I bet that's where my subconscious mind got the
idea of betting only $50.
I think betting any less than that is a mistake, but I do, even upon
review, think that it is really the sweet spot for a fifth street bet
with a vulnerable hand that I could very well have to dump on sixth.
After all, Josh has at least thirteen "scare card outs" (A's, K's, 6's,
7's, and T's) that are going to force me to check and/or fold to a bet on
sixth street.
This is a concept of keeping the pot small with a vulnerable hand to
see one more card is one I picked up from flop play in HE. While most
poker authors and theorist talk about "charging the draws" on the flop,
some also recommend from time to time, if you feel heavy flop action will
leave you pot committed, to let a cheap card come on the turn and then
commit yourself when it's safe and your drawing opponents have much worse
odds.
So, why bet $50 instead of check? Well, I knew Josh would check-raise
if he was winning, so I get away from the hand right there, and I can firm
up my read if he just calls and catches poorly on sixth.
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Re: two things
Date: 2006-02-08 16:35 (UTC)1: I actually like the club. It's better run than some of the NYC clubs, I must admit. Mainly, I felt the staff were not likely to sell out their players, and I often don't have that feeling in NYC.
2: While I didn't put this in the post, I chose not to bet the pot at that moment because even though I was confident in my read later on, my read at that moment was, "I think I have the best hand, but if Josh raises in this spot, he's beating me". Once he failed to raise that $50 bet, I got really sure about my read. If Josh had raised there, I knew I had an easy fold. I wanted to be sure I didn't get too deep in the pot on fifth street. Also, since I had no draw at that point, I wanted the possibility to fold on sixth street if josh caught an overcard to my queens, paired on board, or even if he caught a spade.
In some ways, it was that total blank on Josh's board on sixth street that married me to the hand. While I can't remember my exact thinking, I know that at least subconsciously, I was sure I didn't want to swell the pot too much on fifth.
That's one of the challenges I have in the little bit of PL stud that I've played. It's usually tough, given the typical stack sizes in a $1/$2 blind game, to fail to become somewhat pot committed on sixth street. I have this gut feeling that I want to make it to sixth street still able to fold if things get hairy. I bet that's where my subconscious mind got the idea of betting only $50.
I think betting any less than that is a mistake, but I do, even upon review, think that it is really the sweet spot for a fifth street bet with a vulnerable hand that I could very well have to dump on sixth. After all, Josh has at least thirteen "scare card outs" (A's, K's, 6's, 7's, and T's) that are going to force me to check and/or fold to a bet on sixth street.
This is a concept of keeping the pot small with a vulnerable hand to see one more card is one I picked up from flop play in HE. While most poker authors and theorist talk about "charging the draws" on the flop, some also recommend from time to time, if you feel heavy flop action will leave you pot committed, to let a cheap card come on the turn and then commit yourself when it's safe and your drawing opponents have much worse odds.
So, why bet $50 instead of check? Well, I knew Josh would check-raise if he was winning, so I get away from the hand right there, and I can firm up my read if he just calls and catches poorly on sixth.
Does this logic seem reasonable?