If you are a strong player, you know that there are different types of games. Of course I'm not going to lay down the second nuts that often against this sort of action described here against an average low-stakes NL HE player in a $1/$2 blind game. Such an uneducated player will have open trips and other such holdings too often to make a fold profitable.
But, in the situation discussed here, we have two incredibly experienced players who understand the game. Such laydowns are possible and necessary in those circumstances. The real mistake anyway — which I think is discussed somewhere in the comments above (although this is an old thread and I don't remember exactly) — is that Daniel should have been more careful and possibly avoided a river a value bet with so much money still behind.
So, I am not dumb. Instead, I understand that an extremely high stakes poker hand between two highly experienced players is going to need a different analysis than a hand between a reasonably knowledgeable player and a clueless low stakes player. Perhaps if you want to remain a profitable player, you should consider this fact a bit.
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Re: Are you dumb?
Date: 2009-03-14 18:12 (UTC)If you are a strong player, you know that there are different types of games. Of course I'm not going to lay down the second nuts that often against this sort of action described here against an average low-stakes NL HE player in a $1/$2 blind game. Such an uneducated player will have open trips and other such holdings too often to make a fold profitable.
But, in the situation discussed here, we have two incredibly experienced players who understand the game. Such laydowns are possible and necessary in those circumstances. The real mistake anyway — which I think is discussed somewhere in the comments above (although this is an old thread and I don't remember exactly) — is that Daniel should have been more careful and possibly avoided a river a value bet with so much money still behind.
So, I am not dumb. Instead, I understand that an extremely high stakes poker hand between two highly experienced players is going to need a different analysis than a hand between a reasonably knowledgeable player and a clueless low stakes player. Perhaps if you want to remain a profitable player, you should consider this fact a bit.