I have seen that $2/$5 NL good at times, no question. But, I don't think it is consistently as good as the games above and below, at least in my limited observation. It's also undoubtedly nowhere near as good as (the few remaining) NL games here in NYC and those in AC.
It's all relative, of course. I feel like the $2/$5 NL game is not much better than most of the games online. If I'm not with a group of people I like to be around, I'm only going to pick a live game over online play because the game is substantially better. Live play costs a heck of a lot more, and it has to really be worth it from an EV standpoint.
I do find the Foxwoods limit games to be higher EV than online limit games. Plus, the people are often amusing to watch; the Foxwoods NL games don't have as many goofy characters. So, there is the win-win of entertainment and easy money in the limit games, but not so much in the $2/$5 game.
As for the time charges, I was pulling it out smoothly most of the time; then I accidentally grabbed a green from my pocket that I'd forgotten was in there and had to go back for the red. The big stack noticed and questioned my right to do so, and we got two conflicting floor answers before it was decided. In the baby game, the time charge from your stack hurts your EV so much that it is a major issue. It's less of an issue in $2/$5.
I did the same rebuy trick you did the last time I played $2/$5 and no one questioned. It was the time before the the dealer stopped me and called floor when I protested, and I was told I had to be below the minimum to add chips. Odd thing to argue, given that I could put myself back on the list, and get a new seat and rebuy the maximum, no?
Anyway, as I said, it's all relative. Foxwoods runs a NL game poorly, and there are more profitable places to play NL. I might have a different view if I were still in Boston, but with AC and Foxwoods equidistant (and being a year away from having a high-speed train to AC), I think I'm sure that I'm done with Foxwoods until either the AC/NYC games get really bad.
As I said in my journal before, it's tough for me to even bother to play live unless the game is amazing. Most poker players aren't worth spending time with, so the social aspect is non-existent. People generally play slightly better online for the limits they are at, but there is so much loose money that it takes a really juicy live game to make me want to stay in the presence of intolerable people.
Oh, and as for your comments on $10/$20 limit, I'm interested to hear your view. I could have sworn you were one of the many people who said $20/$40 was better than $10/$20, but I must have been mistaken. I have heard it from a lot of people, though. I have had some really bad losing sessions in $10/$20, and won a few times, but honestly haven't spent enough time to know for sure whether or not it is consistently a good game. The $5/$10 game plays like $10/$20 when the table is good, so until I'm ready to try $20/$40 (I was tempted again this last trip but decided not to), I'll probably skip $10/$20. Of course, I'm unlikely to spend much time at Foxwoods anymore regardless.
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Re: NL games at FW
Date: 2006-08-29 18:37 (UTC)I have seen that $2/$5 NL good at times, no question. But, I don't think it is consistently as good as the games above and below, at least in my limited observation. It's also undoubtedly nowhere near as good as (the few remaining) NL games here in NYC and those in AC.
It's all relative, of course. I feel like the $2/$5 NL game is not much better than most of the games online. If I'm not with a group of people I like to be around, I'm only going to pick a live game over online play because the game is substantially better. Live play costs a heck of a lot more, and it has to really be worth it from an EV standpoint.
I do find the Foxwoods limit games to be higher EV than online limit games. Plus, the people are often amusing to watch; the Foxwoods NL games don't have as many goofy characters. So, there is the win-win of entertainment and easy money in the limit games, but not so much in the $2/$5 game.
As for the time charges, I was pulling it out smoothly most of the time; then I accidentally grabbed a green from my pocket that I'd forgotten was in there and had to go back for the red. The big stack noticed and questioned my right to do so, and we got two conflicting floor answers before it was decided. In the baby game, the time charge from your stack hurts your EV so much that it is a major issue. It's less of an issue in $2/$5.
I did the same rebuy trick you did the last time I played $2/$5 and no one questioned. It was the time before the the dealer stopped me and called floor when I protested, and I was told I had to be below the minimum to add chips. Odd thing to argue, given that I could put myself back on the list, and get a new seat and rebuy the maximum, no?
Anyway, as I said, it's all relative. Foxwoods runs a NL game poorly, and there are more profitable places to play NL. I might have a different view if I were still in Boston, but with AC and Foxwoods equidistant (and being a year away from having a high-speed train to AC), I think I'm sure that I'm done with Foxwoods until either the AC/NYC games get really bad.
As I said in my journal before, it's tough for me to even bother to play live unless the game is amazing. Most poker players aren't worth spending time with, so the social aspect is non-existent. People generally play slightly better online for the limits they are at, but there is so much loose money that it takes a really juicy live game to make me want to stay in the presence of intolerable people.
Oh, and as for your comments on $10/$20 limit, I'm interested to hear your view. I could have sworn you were one of the many people who said $20/$40 was better than $10/$20, but I must have been mistaken. I have heard it from a lot of people, though. I have had some really bad losing sessions in $10/$20, and won a few times, but honestly haven't spent enough time to know for sure whether or not it is consistently a good game. The $5/$10 game plays like $10/$20 when the table is good, so until I'm ready to try $20/$40 (I was tempted again this last trip but decided not to), I'll probably skip $10/$20. Of course, I'm unlikely to spend much time at Foxwoods anymore regardless.