surely trash talking cannot be without bounds, but isn't some allowed?
shouldn't you just learn to see such tactics as part of the game that you
love and zone them out, as rory suggests?
I don't think it's a bad thing necessarily. Indeed, I showed this in a my
clarification
comment to Steven. When I said the word "taunt", I didn't hold any
qualifications or judgments with it; it was part of the game. The tactic
worked, to further reap benefits for Steven with his semi-bluff and make
his play more mysterious to me. If I hadn't been clear before, I want to
be now: that sort of stuff is to be applauded as good poker play.
As for the more recent event, I am honestly unsure how to read Steven
and Nick's argument; I do think the "... and I rivered you" comment
could easily have been taken as a slow roll and an over-the-top
insult, and I think it was reasonable for Nick to take it that way.
Meanwhile, I also don't believe Steven truly wanted it to work out
that way. What ensued was escalation that was definitely bad and
blame goes to both sides, I think.
What bugs me most happened earlier in the evening: the silly
whispering, which became prevalent about 3/4ths the way through the
game. I listened to it, since I thought it might be good for my game
to hear it but I didn't let it impact my play (at least, I can't find
any impact in my analysis of my results), and I do think Rory's advice
here is right.
What bugs me here is people failing to confront other and face up to
the situation. If you want to needle someone as part of the game,
then come out and do it. Indeed, I think Steven's showing that bluff
to me is a great example of how to do it perfectly. However,
whispering to your neighbor about "how stupid they all are" is just
silly and immature. I don't care if they do it, and if it were a
casino, it wouldn't even matter to me. My whole point of the initial
post was this: I prefer to avoid treating your game as a casino, and
these incidents make me want to treat it more like a casino, and
that's something I'm pretty sad about, because it was my only regular
"home game" at the moment. But, I can adapt, and if you're game's a
casino, it's a casino, no longer a home game (at least what I view as
a home game). And, adapting in that way is probably what I'll do.
Greg wrote:
when steven asked nick why he was upset about losing that pot after steven
spiked a 3 outer, i don't think he was trying to gain an edge.
I really was thinking more about other events, not this one, when I
made the comments I did.
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... the first two points.
Date: 2005-01-03 06:05 (UTC)I don't think it's a bad thing necessarily. Indeed, I showed this in a my clarification comment to Steven. When I said the word "taunt", I didn't hold any qualifications or judgments with it; it was part of the game. The tactic worked, to further reap benefits for Steven with his semi-bluff and make his play more mysterious to me. If I hadn't been clear before, I want to be now: that sort of stuff is to be applauded as good poker play.
As for the more recent event, I am honestly unsure how to read Steven and Nick's argument; I do think the "... and I rivered you" comment could easily have been taken as a slow roll and an over-the-top insult, and I think it was reasonable for Nick to take it that way. Meanwhile, I also don't believe Steven truly wanted it to work out that way. What ensued was escalation that was definitely bad and blame goes to both sides, I think.
What bugs me most happened earlier in the evening: the silly whispering, which became prevalent about 3/4ths the way through the game. I listened to it, since I thought it might be good for my game to hear it but I didn't let it impact my play (at least, I can't find any impact in my analysis of my results), and I do think Rory's advice here is right.
What bugs me here is people failing to confront other and face up to the situation. If you want to needle someone as part of the game, then come out and do it. Indeed, I think Steven's showing that bluff to me is a great example of how to do it perfectly. However, whispering to your neighbor about "how stupid they all are" is just silly and immature. I don't care if they do it, and if it were a casino, it wouldn't even matter to me. My whole point of the initial post was this: I prefer to avoid treating your game as a casino, and these incidents make me want to treat it more like a casino, and that's something I'm pretty sad about, because it was my only regular "home game" at the moment. But, I can adapt, and if you're game's a casino, it's a casino, no longer a home game (at least what I view as a home game). And, adapting in that way is probably what I'll do.
Greg wrote:
I really was thinking more about other events, not this one, when I made the comments I did.