What Should Work Dan Have Done?
Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:22![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
As I mentioned in an earlier post, Work Dan and I were playing at the U Club when a fellow dumped a nearly $500 stack to me. He rebought for around $200, and played for a while when the following hand came up between him and Work Dan.
Work Dan (W.D.) called behind this guy, let's call him Stack Dumper (S.D.) (in honor of his earlier dump to me), in late position when S.D. had raised to $10. They saw the flop five handed with $50 and with Dan in position (some earlier limpers called the raise when it came back around to them). S.D. had about $250 behind and W.D. had about $350.
The flop was K Q
9
. S.D. bet $5. He'd never bet so little into a big pot
like this. Dan made it $30 to go, the rest of the field folded, and
S.D. min-reraised making it $60 to go. W.D. thought for a while and
called. There was $170 in the pot and the saw the turn 2
, which left the board without a flush draw.
S.D. thought for a moment and bet $55. Dan thought for nearly a minute and called. At this moment, I was beginning to feel that S.D. had JT. His play was extremely strange and didn't match up with his past behavior. I had no visual read on him that told me anything, but the betting sequence, especially given that it was so different from his past actions, seemed to shout JT.
On the river, which fell A, S.D. quickly grabbed the $5 chip covering his cards, put it
on his remaining stack and pushed for $127 total into a $280 pot.
W.D. thought for a long time. He looked at S.D. and said
you have
Broadway, don't you? You flopped the nuts, didn't you?
.
S.D. tried his best to look away, and finally met W.D.'s eyes and
grinned and pushed his eyebrows up a few times. This, too, was out of
character; he was a very serious player who didn't make faces like
this and goof off like that. The only visual tell I noticed was that
S.D. seemed pretty calm — which I usually read as a bluffer's
tell — but I had no visual read when he bet the nuts to compare
it to. I continued to think JT and was rooting for W.D. to fold what
I thought was KQ.
W.D. thought and thought and finally called, very reluctantly. I just
kept saying in my head that S.D. had the nuts. At the moment of the
call, I figured W.D. must have had a set; I figured he'd fold KQ.
S.D. showed the Q 7
for a middle pair bluff, and W.D. won with 9
9
for bottom set (on the flop).
W.D. and I debated for a long time about how he should have played it. I felt that he needed to decided on the flop or the turn if the guy had JT. If he felt there was a good chance a set was good, he had to move in on the flop or the turn. S.D. would overplay one pair for sure, but he might give up if a third straight card fell, or if the board paired, and he only held a good K. Also, if S.D. has AK, W.D. needed to charge S.D. to draw to a T.
But, after much debate, I realized I wasn't sure how to play it. I wondered some if W.D. could make it $120 to go on the flop and fold to a fourth raise, but that didn't make sense either; the hand seems too strong to fold even on a problematic board. Still, I don't think he's in a good spot when the turn blanks at him and he has to face a bet. Sure, he has position, but he's still trying to decide if the guy has the nuts or not. In the end, I don't know W.D.'s right move here.